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  Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

  by warehouse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

  edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

  so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

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  I disagree that the TMS is "still there:" it would seem the new format effectively ends the Ministry School, or at least structurally changes it to a point beyond recognition.

  No more speech counsel slips, no TMS overseer, no second school; and participation restricted to just the three five-minute demos (six people at most), and at least some of which are likely to he handled by video.

  In sum, a much smaller percentage of the congregation will be involved in the "Apply Yourself to Field Ministry," and likely, the end of pressure for the rank and file to enroll.
  
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  Rumor Confirmed!: Bethel Downsize First Hand

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just texted a very good remote worker friend, said i heard that there is a reduction in force coming at bethel and i hoped he wouldn't be affected.

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  he said its true, its not a rumor.

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  I just noted on the Italian ex-JW website Geova.org that they've gotten wind of the downsizing of the "licenziamento" ("firing") of 1600 Bethelites, noting that it's a real firing -- not reassignment; and of a letter that openly speaks of "downsizing."
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  How does such a loony topic get so much ink?
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  Faulty Reasoning to Promote God's "Name"

  by Dissonant15 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i am newly awoken, i am daily having epiphanies & revelations now.

  i've been casually wondering to myself since the propagandist broadcast about the name "jehovah" if it would be more proper to call him "yahweh" to myself.

  well tonight the answer suddenly came to me: it doesn't matter.

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  It also seems to me that the off-hand "Jehovah this" and "Jehovah that" in everyday conversation has exactly the opposite of their intended purpose: it actually devalues or cheapens it. Once you detach it from any identification with his role as the Lord God Almighty, the All-Wise, Eternal Creator and Sustainer of the Universe, it immediately devalues it to the commonplace, or to the level of "just another name.".

  He becomes little more than a superstitious talisman, the evocation of a tribal desert god of the Hebrews, among his peers in a pantheon of lesser deities.
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  A new religion/cult?

  by roberto avon in

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  2. friends

  a new religion?.

  it has been a while that i didn't post.

  as some of you may know i live in italy and ( maybe ) something curious is happening.

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  Ciao Roberto,

  From the looks of it, this movement seems comprised of a much younger demographic than the likes of the old guard -- Achille Aveta, Sergio Pollina, Roberto di Stefano, ecc. Also, do you have any idea if it's a real bona fide Bethelite that's responsible for the "betelitaconsapevole" blog? Also what was the average JW's reaction to Antony Morris's rant during his February visit?
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  The Watchtower says: The Septuagint became God's Word

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the last edition of the watchtower (study edition) says the following:.

  alexander the great later conquered much of the ancient world, and common, or koine, greek became an international language.

  so, in this verse the septuagint was not god's word according to matthew.

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  In this, the Watchtower agrees with the Eastern Orthodox Church, which has always regarded the Septuagint as inspired.
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  The "mis-truths" said by brothers during the Royal Commission.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my sister said she heard several "mis truths" or dare we say, "lies" said by the brothers on the stand during the royal commission.. 1) vin toole lied when asked about the expression "theocratic warfare".

  he said he was unaware of the term.

  2) terry obrien lied when asked whether witnesses are free to research the organisation or free to leave without any negative consequences.. 3) geoff jackson lied when he said that the organisation doesn't run a 'police state' and doesn't criticise those who want to leave.

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  Terrence O Brien was also called out for lying when, in his bid to dissuade the RC from ordering Geoff Jackson to appear, he downplayed GJ's role in co-running the organization, by suggesting he was mainly involved in translation.
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  What were you favorite book in the organization? I know what you're thinking...LOL!

  by BashfulAshG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what were *your favorite *books in the organization?.

  out of all of those books, i liked "mankind's search for god.

  " however, it appears to me that this book is incredibly obscure and no one recalls studying it during the old book study format.

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  Choosing the Best Way of Life (1979) was my favorite; it's sad to consider just how much the quality of their literature has deteriorated since then. I believe the book, along with the Commentary on James was another of those written by the liberal camp, led by Franz, Dunlap and Lengtat, which led into the 1980 Bethel witch hunt.
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  best ex JW sites

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to visit this site about ten years ago.

  i haven't come her in a long time.

  i have just recently started talking to a family member who is leaving the jws and i wanted to know what are the best sites available these days for finding out all the topics of information - failed prophecy, 1975, rutherford's drinking, russells tombstone - you know all of that kind of stuff.. back in the day there used to be a site run by a norwegian i think called kent.

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  Although technically not an ex-JW site (he has never been a JW), Doug Mason's site is outstanding: jwstudies.com
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  Article- Child checks for all religious leaders, inquiry recommends

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/child-checks-for-all-religious-leaders-inquiry-recommends/story-fngburq5-1227486717033.

  by: rick morton .

  from: the australian .

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  It seemed to me that during his testimony, Jackson broadly hinted of his tacit approval if the government would moot the issue by ordering mandatory reporting.